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I'm not saying they are biologically another organism attached to your head

2:28 PM

i think you know that's not what I meant

I know

2:30 PM

I just would like people to be more clear with that. Claiming that tulpa is like another human is just ridiculously wrong. We can escape to more abstract term - person. And now it's just hard to verify.

My mistake.

2:43 PM

I was just expecting others to understand the spirit of what I was trying to say.

Sadly, people understanding the spirit of a statement is not something that can be assumed.

2:57 PM

...especially from people new to a concept, or people looking for a hold to criticize.

"Most people here believe a tulpa to be the exact same as another person you could meet in real life" is super misleading when you're already on the same page of talking about what a tulpa is

3:09 PM

confused me too

3:09 PM

I don't think tulpas have different "minds" entirely but a lot of people do so that could be confused there y'know

Hard to have a totally different mind when you share all the same hardware and all the same life experience

Unintentionally misleading, I guess

3:21 PM

As I've warned you all in the past, I am pretty stupid. I had better probably stay out of these conversations in future

You certainly haven't come across as stupid during the entire time I have seen you talk and spoken to you.

just don't get upset and stick with the discussion until everyone understands each other

3:26 PM

that's what we do

Ah, I just mean I shouldn't have made an error like that

It's much like a venn diagram. Largely separate minds but with some shared components. This usually consists of memories and whatnot

I would say largely shared with only some separation really

5:07 PM

But if you think about it even a little separation is a feat

it varies between systems. Some have a large amount of overlap, others are more seperate

Our opinions and memories overlap, but our personalities are distinct

6:17 PM

And I don't feel I am anyone in my system other than myself

{^^ same here.}

6:47 PM

{but we are also very small. Can imagine it would vary as the system size increases.}

im one of those person that prided himself for being 'real' yet its so hard since what do i do if i keep doubting the existence of tulpas?

8:35 AM

this has been happening since yesterday and today, i keep saying sorry to my non vocal tulpa yet doubts keep coming back

Have you tried asking them if they're real? It usually works for me

8:35 AM

Lucio seems annoyed when I ask but he answers every time anyway

yeah but she is still a nonvocal one

ah, alright

8:37 AM

well, just keep on believing

8:37 AM

I'm sure they're real

what is real, lol?

8:37 AM

Our imagination is a part of reality too

Someone linked me this a few days ago in response to doubt https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/4p7osg/trick_for_dealing_with_doubt/

r/Tulpas - Trick for dealing with doubt!

41 votes and 5 comments so far on Reddit

For me, doubts are something to accept

8:39 AM

and not to make a big deal of them

8:40 AM

Just spend time with your tulpa and enjoy it. Doubt is reasonable and shows that you just don't blindly believe in all of this.

i dont know i guess, can someone like link me a scientific video i guess proving the existance of tulpas?

8:41 AM

idk maybe something like that will calm me down

Hmm...

8:41 AM

I can send you an article about illusion of independent agency. It's not only us who experience imaginary characters talking to us

8:42 AM

IIA.pdf

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Even with Cia already here I still have occasional mini panic attacks

8:43 AM

Doubt just shows you're actually thinking about it. I spent maybe five days constantly contemplating this before taking the dive.

@Towaka ~暗い~ alright but how did you manage to jump over the fact that what if all of this was bullcrap? (sorry for language lol i dont know the right word for it)

I think hearing imaginary companions talking to you is not bullcrap (edited)

yeah but like, are you skepticis about it when u started seeing what tulpa is all about in the beginning?

I'm more of a skeptic now than I was back then

8:49 AM

It doesn't really exclude with being a tulpa

8:50 AM

I just sent you a scientific article about people outside our little community experiencing fictional characters talking to them.

8:51 AM

And what is a tulpa who just reached vocality if not an imaginary companion showing (illusion of) independent agency?

No. I wasn't really skeptical at all. My doubt came from whether or not I could potentially become insane from one.

8:53 AM

Because two minds is still a new concept (edited)

8:53 AM

I can see how it worka though

Some older tulpas (like me) act more like alternate identities than only imaginary companions. Existence of dissociative identity is not really questionable. Unfortunately, scientist rather talk about it with context of it being a part of a disorder

Which is why I wasn't skeptical

What I believe is that an imaginary companion can evolve into alternate identity. And having alternate identities is not a disorder by itself. (edited)

Don't ask me to explain why I think this is real because I can't :L

Also, I think a tulpa being a second mind is not really the case :p

8:57 AM

Lol

8:58 AM

Well not really second mind

8:58 AM

I don't know how to explain iy

im trying so hard to stop doubting tulpas existance so I try to find some loopholes around myself like "dont worry, its different from religion so your not deluding yourself" and all that

9:00 AM

because i really want a friend in me, and the reason why i cant quit tulpamancing because i feel sadness, like i left my nonvocal friend

My theory is (in a nutshell) its training the brain to think in two different patterns (edited)

9:01 AM

One's the original person, the other is the tulpa

9:01 AM

Not much else to it.

@Rexerage , tulpamancy is for people. You don't need to blame yourself for doubting in your tulpa. It's rational to doubt. Also, it's different from religion - we actually have clues that imaginary beings talking to you is possible.

@Towaka ~暗い~ the "its training the brain to think in two different patterns" made it better, thanks

even though you said it's just your own theory, i guess it helps a little bit

np

@Rexerage late to the party but there's like sciency stuff behind abit :D

12:52 PM

So if u wanna check that out

like what?

@Scentefy yeah me wanna check it out my mans

1:20 PM

unless u mean search on google then lol

here you have one scientific article about tulpas http://somatosphere.net/2015/04/varieties-of-tulpa-experiences-sentient-imaginary-friends-embodied-joint-attention-and-hypnotic-sociality-in-a-wired-world.html

Samuel Veissière

Varieties of Tulpa Experiences: Sentient Imaginary Friends, Embod...

ooh boy i just woke up check this out, its a couple of years old but it might still be relevant~

9:08 PM

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-eeg-of-tulpa-activity

EEG of tulpa activity

Just reposting from reddit Quote:Apparently some guy in the tulpa general got his hands on one of these (an EEG headset) and used it to measure his brainwaves while conversing with his tulpa, while he

9:09 PM

and this reddit post~

9:09 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualConversation/comments/3peza6/have_you_guys_ever_been_on_rtulpas/cw5uqgg/

r/CasualConversation - Have you guys ever been on /r/Tulpas?

21 votes and 60 comments so far on Reddit

9:09 PM

@Rexerage

[I love how an undertale suggestion became their focus after that post]

haha, that casual conversation links support from dr braun, aka, the guy who convincved people they were baby eating satanists.

is that a good thing or a bad thing

Bad thing, linking to very very bad unfounded and downright evil "science" and not taking the time to actually read and look into the sources you are citing is a very easy thing to avoid if you are seeking truth rather than attempting to justify a viewpoint.

Will some of my IRL skills will be affected when I keep tulpamancing?

7:24 AM

I'm really curious if it affects your brain.

How do you mean?

7:43 AM

If anything at all, our motor skills, self-control, etc. have improved or stayed the same during the time I've been around, or we have just never noticed any impact at all... I don't think there have been any studies on the like

I'll link a page here, wait.

7:50 AM

Tulpamancy can rewire the brain on a very, very deep level, and the long-term effects of this are largely unknown.

7:50 AM

https://tulpa.io/pros-cons

The Hidden Ones

Pros & Cons – Tulpa.io

A community by and for tulpamancers, for those interested in learning about tulpa creation and development.

7:50 AM

In the con's part.

L\ Well, I think we don't really know if it doesn't have some effects we don't know about. (edited)

7:56 AM

^